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Dead Rabbit. Help!

        I was driving on the freeway in my 78 rabbit and started losing
power slowly at first, then more and more quickly over the course of about
a mile.  The temprature light came on right before the exit and I did the
turn on the heater…etc. type stuff, then the engine died completely at
the end of the exit.  At this point, theres a bunch of burning oil smoke
slowly comming up from the hood.  After it cooled down, I started poking
around and found one of the hoses to the water pump had ruptured, which
explained the over-heating.  I tried turning the car on again and it tried
to turn over (but didn’t), so I know the engine isn’t seized.
        Any suggestions on what I need to check for and/or fix to get it
running again?  It’s a 78 with automatic and a 1.6L.
        Thanks in advance!
-Jason

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7 Responses to “Dead Rabbit. Help!”

  1. admin says:

    On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Jason McKee wrote:
    > to turn over (but didn’t), so I know the engine isn’t seized.
    >    Any suggestions on what I need to check for and/or fix to get it
    > running again?  It’s a 78 with automatic and a 1.6L.

            It’s toast.  Just replace the motor with one from another car or
    replace the whole car.  You’ll save money in the long run.

            Jim

  2. admin says:

    Jason McKee <ja…@scooter.cc.wwu.edu> wrote:
    >around and found one of the hoses to the water pump had ruptured, which
    >explained the over-heating.  I tried turning the car on again and it tried
    >to turn over (but didn’t), so I know the engine isn’t seized.
    >    Any suggestions on what I need to check for and/or fix to get it
    >running again?  It’s a 78 with automatic and a 1.6L.
    >    Thanks in advance!

    RETIGHTEN THE HEAD ASAP!

    This happen on my 78 once.

    When it is cold again:

    Loosen each bolt and tighten it to spec.  

    Follow the pattern in the Bentley.

    My car ran for years after that.

    Walt….

    PS You may have warped your head.
    You may have cracked your head
    You may have cracked your block
    Block cracking near the head bolts
    around cylinder 4 is VERY common.

    Atleast if you retighten the head you may
    get lucky!  If you do not you will most likely
    have a blown head gasket later, if not already.

  3. admin says:

    >   "James P. Meyer" <jim…@acpub.duke.edu> writes:
    >  On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Jason McKee wrote:

    >  > to turn over (but didn’t), so I know the engine isn’t seized.
    >  >      Any suggestions on what I need to check for and/or fix to get it
    >  > running again?  It’s a 78 with automatic and a 1.6L.

    >    It’s toast.  Just replace the motor with one from another car or
    >  replace the whole car.  You’ll save money in the long run.

    >    Jim

    make shure the fuel pump is working .check the fuse and relay  wiring[is it burned up?]
    you can hear the fuel pump if its working  by looking by the right rear wheel  as someone clicks the starter over
    then I would check the ignition system

    and then if nogo  check the timing belt it may have broken .good luck let me know if any of the above.

    77rabbit 93 fox  94 jettalll

  4. admin says:

    In <Pine.ULT.3.91.960615230930.4640A-100…@scooter.cc.wwu.edu> Jason

    McKee <ja…@scooter.cc.wwu.edu> writes:

    My my.  The engine may not be toast!  Work from simple to complex, just
    as you would troubleshoot any non-start problem!  Who knows what is
    wrong at this point.  It could be as simple as a melted or damaged
    wire, or as serious as a trashed piston.

    Do a little more re-search, fill us in, do not go and re-tighten heads
    or buy a new engine, until you are sure that they are the problem.  I
    have seriously overheated my Jetta on two occasions, and neither time
    did I have to tighten heads or replace motors!  I did have to wait a
    while before re-start tho.

    Good Luck-

    -Dan C.

  5. admin says:

    dc…@ix.netcom.com(Daniel E. Collins) wrote:
    >In <Pine.ULT.3.91.960615230930.4640A-100…@scooter.cc.wwu.edu> Jason
    >McKee <ja…@scooter.cc.wwu.edu> writes:
    [snip]
    >did I have to tighten heads or replace motors!  I did have to wait a
    >while before re-start tho.

    It is prudent, especially on those early engines that are supposed
    have their heads retightened every now and then, to retightenen
    the head after overheating.  When I did that on my 78 once I never
    had a problem.  I FORGOT to do it to my 82 when a fan malfunctioned
    ( I didn’t think it was too bad but it did go in the red)
    and a few months later there was a leaking gasket.  During disassembly
    I noticed one bolt was loose.  Ditto with my 78 and that one the
    radiator blew up.  Later cars are more forgiving because of the
    strech head bolts,   78s do not have those, normally.  Besides the
    whole job does not even take a half hour to do.

    I am sure glad things have be engineered with more robustness
    by now.

    Walt…..

  6. admin says:

    In article <4q9mq8$…@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> dc…@ix.netcom.com(Daniel E. Collins) writes:
    >From: dc…@ix.netcom.com(Daniel E. Collins)
    >Subject: Re: Dead Rabbit.  Help!
    >Date: 19 Jun 1996 20:09:44 GMT
    >In <Pine.ULT.3.91.960615230930.4640A-100…@scooter.cc.wwu.edu> Jason
    >McKee <ja…@scooter.cc.wwu.edu> writes:

    >My my.  The engine may not be toast!  Work from simple to complex, just
    >as you would troubleshoot any non-start problem!  Who knows what is
    >wrong at this point.  It could be as simple as a melted or damaged
    >wire, or as serious as a trashed piston.
    >Do a little more re-search, fill us in, do not go and re-tighten heads
    >or buy a new engine, until you are sure that they are the problem.  I
    >have seriously overheated my Jetta on two occasions, and neither time

    BTW, have you seriously overheated whats her name yet?  Enquiring minds . .

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    >did I have to tighten heads or replace motors!  I did have to wait a
    >while before re-start tho.
    >Good Luck-
    >-Dan C.

  7. admin says:

    In <picot.1346.01276…@cpcug.org> pi…@cpcug.org (Chris Picot)
    writes:

    >BTW, have you seriously overheated whats her name yet?  Enquiring
    >minds . .

    Let me put is this way:  A big fat broken nose and a little sympathy
    goes a LONG way!

    -Dan C.

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