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"J. Michael Shifflette" <jm…@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> > I have gone through a few of the circlips trying to get one to seat
> > correctly. Even then I was not so sure it was good. I have driven more
> > than a few thousand miles and nothing has blown up so I guess it was
> > good enough. I think of all the things I have encountered on VWs that
> > has been the most frustrating. Well that and wondering when my tranny
> > is going to self machine. It has 287,000 miles on it.

> > Jim B.

> Thanks for sharing your experiences, Jim.

> I tried making a tool like somebody suggested somewhere, but mine was
> just too clumsy to get down to business.  So I got a new set of
> circlips and Oh-So-Gently expanded them and got them over the shaft
> and into the groove.  Experience and patience seems to help.

> I now estimate my radial play to be about 0.25mm, or about 0.010".  I
> have given some thought to this, and I’m not so sure it matters much
> if the circlip is a little too big in diameter for the bottom of the
> groove.  The flange springs keep good outward force against it, and
> there is no foreseeable force that could cause that circlip to open.

> To further bolster my guess, I haven’t found any posts where one has
> let go and havoc followed.   So I suppose, within reason, a new clip
> that goes down into the groove is about the only requirement.  Just a
> guess.

> Thanks again.

> Mike

> Jim B.

Thanks for sharing your experiences, Jim.  

I tried making a tool like somebody suggested somewhere, but mine was
just too clumsy to get down to business.  So I got a new set of
circlips and Oh-So-Gently expanded them and got them over the shaft
and into the groove.  Experience and patience seems to help.

I now estimate my radial play to be about 0.25mm, or about 0.010".  I
have given some thought to this, and I’m not so sure it matters much
if the circlip is a little too big in diameter for the bottom of the
groove.  The flange springs keep good outward force against it, and
there is no foreseeable force that could cause that circlip to open.

To further bolster my guess, I haven’t found any posts where one has
let go and havoc followed.   So I suppose, within reason, a new clip
that goes down into the groove is about the only requirement.  Just a
guess.

Thanks again.

Mike

jm…@bellsouth.net (J. Michael Shifflette) wrote:

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>Hello,

>I have an ’87 GTI 8V and am installing the Peloquin Pelolok
>differential upgrade.  I used the included tool to compress the
>flange, and I found that the new circlip wouldn’t go over the piece of
>M10x1.5 all thread.  So I removed the tool, put the circlip over the
>all thread and reinstalled the tool.

>I used outer-serrated circlip opening pliers to expand the circlip.
>After it flew off once, it cleared the all thread (which it wouldn’t
>do before); so the circlip had taken a set larger than original.

>I again tried to install the circlip, opening it just enough to clear
>the output shaft.  I got it on, but it didn’t seem to seat well.  So I
>removed it and compared it to the old one… the new one was stretched
>larger than the old one.

>So I tried refitting the old one, and I could see the wear groove
>wasn’t in tight to the output shaft.  It had about 1mm radial play.
>So I removed it and installed the second new circlip of the kit, again
>trying to limit the stretch I put on the circlip.

>The new circlip went on first time, and "snapped" well into place.  It
>also has 1mm radial play.

>The kit instructs the user not to install the dished washer, so the
>circlip is bearing directly on the flange, not that has much to do
>with the story…

>What is the proper amount of radial play in these circlips when they
>are correctly installed.  Is is possible that the circlips I got with
>the kit were faulty?  How "springy" are they supposed to be?  Is there
>maybe a heat treatment that may have been incorrect?

>Thanks guys, I’m apart, waiting to get back together…

>Mike

Jim B.