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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In article &lt;1996Jun5.094343.55...@cobra.uni.edu&gt;, fi...@cobra.uni.edu wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; The only thing I&#039;ve realy read about the filter debate is from this &lt;br /&gt; list&#039;s FAQ. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; For some A2s (my &#039;88 Jetta included), it&#039;s fairly importnat to use Bosch, VW &lt;br /&gt; &gt; and a few other filters which have a valve built-in that others (Fram for &lt;br /&gt; &gt; example) do not. &#160;Without this valve, ALL the oil will drain into the pan when &lt;br /&gt; &gt; the engine is off. &#160;VW later corrected this problem, I&#039;ve read, by &lt;br /&gt; placing this &lt;br /&gt; &gt; valve in the engine itself. &#160; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I change every 3000 miles, but don&#039;t use sythetic. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Ron &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&#160; &#160;This is an issue that I have to touch on. &#160; &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160;I think that I have tryed all sorts of filters and can comment on a few. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160;Now these are my experiences so they aren&#039;t the bible. &#160;But they took &lt;br /&gt; place one more one car at once so that tends to get a general trend. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160;1) Fram: &#160;They are ok and I use them when I can&#039;t get my top choices. &lt;br /&gt; Do cause a little engine noise but not much. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160;2) Hastings: &#160;DO NOT BUY THEM. &#160;I bought three when my parts place &lt;br /&gt; didn&#039;t carry my choice filter. &#160;I put them in my father&#039;s &#039;91 jetta that &lt;br /&gt; never had valve noise and it clanked like crazy. &#160;My girlfriend&#039;s &#039;86 &lt;br /&gt; jetta with worn lifters was terrible with that filter. &#160;My Scirocco w/&#039;86 &lt;br /&gt; GLI motor clinked at start up and it had rarely done that. &#160;ONCE AGAIN &lt;br /&gt; DON&#039;T BUY THEM. &#160;My parts guy gave me the hole line about how good they &lt;br /&gt; are. &#160;When I went back I damn near threw it at his head told them they are &lt;br /&gt; terrible and I would go eslewhere to buy my filters if he didn&#039;t get bosch &lt;br /&gt; again. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160;3) Mann/VW: &#160;Never had a problem with them. Highly recommended. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160;4) Bosch: &#160;I think that the same company that makes the Mann makes the &lt;br /&gt; Bosch because they look very similar and I really like the Bosch filters. &lt;br /&gt; These are the filters I usually use. &#160;This is the only filter I use on my &lt;br /&gt; Alfa. No valve or engine noise, etc. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; Just my thoughts and experiences... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; Domenic Lippolis &#160;d...@aorta.med.yale.edu &lt;br /&gt; 1991 Jetta &#160; &#160; &#160; 1980 Scirocco S &#160;1983 Alfa Romeo GTV6 &lt;br /&gt; 1986 Kawasaki Ninja ZX600A &#160; &#160;1979 Piaggio Vespa P125X &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>In article &lt;1996Jun5.094343.55&#8230;@cobra.uni.edu&gt;, <a href="mailto:fi...@cobra.uni.edu">fi&#8230;@cobra.uni.edu</a> wrote: <br /> &gt; The only thing I&#8217;ve realy read about the filter debate is from this <br /> list&#8217;s FAQ. <br /> &gt; For some A2s (my &#8217;88 Jetta included), it&#8217;s fairly importnat to use Bosch, VW <br /> &gt; and a few other filters which have a valve built-in that others (Fram for <br /> &gt; example) do not. &nbsp;Without this valve, ALL the oil will drain into the pan when <br /> &gt; the engine is off. &nbsp;VW later corrected this problem, I&#8217;ve read, by <br /> placing this <br /> &gt; valve in the engine itself. &nbsp;  </p>
<p>&gt; I change every 3000 miles, but don&#8217;t use sythetic.  </p>
<p>&gt; Ron </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;This is an issue that I have to touch on. &nbsp; <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp;I think that I have tryed all sorts of filters and can comment on a few.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;Now these are my experiences so they aren&#8217;t the bible. &nbsp;But they took <br /> place one more one car at once so that tends to get a general trend.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;1) Fram: &nbsp;They are ok and I use them when I can&#8217;t get my top choices. <br /> Do cause a little engine noise but not much.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;2) Hastings: &nbsp;DO NOT BUY THEM. &nbsp;I bought three when my parts place <br /> didn&#8217;t carry my choice filter. &nbsp;I put them in my father&#8217;s &#8217;91 jetta that <br /> never had valve noise and it clanked like crazy. &nbsp;My girlfriend&#8217;s &#8217;86 <br /> jetta with worn lifters was terrible with that filter. &nbsp;My Scirocco w/&#8217;86 <br /> GLI motor clinked at start up and it had rarely done that. &nbsp;ONCE AGAIN <br /> DON&#8217;T BUY THEM. &nbsp;My parts guy gave me the hole line about how good they <br /> are. &nbsp;When I went back I damn near threw it at his head told them they are <br /> terrible and I would go eslewhere to buy my filters if he didn&#8217;t get bosch <br /> again.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;3) Mann/VW: &nbsp;Never had a problem with them. Highly recommended.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;4) Bosch: &nbsp;I think that the same company that makes the Mann makes the <br /> Bosch because they look very similar and I really like the Bosch filters. <br /> These are the filters I usually use. &nbsp;This is the only filter I use on my <br /> Alfa. No valve or engine noise, etc.  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Just my thoughts and experiences&#8230;  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> Domenic Lippolis &nbsp;d&#8230;@aorta.med.yale.edu <br /> 1991 Jetta &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1980 Scirocco S &nbsp;1983 Alfa Romeo GTV6 <br /> 1986 Kawasaki Ninja ZX600A &nbsp; &nbsp;1979 Piaggio Vespa P125X </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;In article &lt;tkeck.18.054C4...@ameritel.net&gt;, tk...@ameritel.net (Tim Keck) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; In article &lt;kpierrot-0206961924000...@line015.nwm.mindlink.net&gt; kpier...@unixg.ubc.ca (Hokus Pick) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;From: kpier...@unixg.ubc.ca (Hokus Pick) &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;Subject: OIL Change &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 19:24:00 +1000 &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;After how many miles should I get an oil change for a 1983 Scirocco? &#160;I&#039;ve &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt;heard some people say after 8,000 miles, but that seems like a long time. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;Thanks! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;Razz &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;___________________________________________ &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;HOKUS PICK &#160; kpier...@unixg.ubc.ca &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; http://catalog.com/lionsden/hokus/ &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I think VW spec is 7500, at least it is for my 89. It used to be 3000 (circa &lt;br /&gt; &gt; 73). &#160;I used to change mine at 3000 and used 10w30 or 20w50, depending on &lt;br /&gt; &gt; season. &#160;Now I change at 5000 and use 5w-50 synthetic oil year round. &#160;I add &lt;br /&gt; &gt; slick-50 every 50k miles, because I like the logic of it, even if I can&#039;t &lt;br /&gt; &gt; provr it works. &#160; I won&#039;t enter the filter debate, but I think you can&#039;t go &lt;br /&gt; &gt; wrong with a VW filter. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; tk &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The only thing I&#039;ve realy read about the filter debate is from this list&#039;s FAQ. &lt;br /&gt; For some A2s (my &#039;88 Jetta included), it&#039;s fairly importnat to use Bosch, VW &lt;br /&gt; and a few other filters which have a valve built-in that others (Fram for &lt;br /&gt; example) do not. &#160;Without this valve, ALL the oil will drain into the pan when &lt;br /&gt; the engine is off. &#160;VW later corrected this problem, I&#039;ve read, by placing this &lt;br /&gt; valve in the engine itself. &#160; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I change every 3000 miles, but don&#039;t use sythetic. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ron &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>In article &lt;tkeck.18.054C4&#8230;@ameritel.net&gt;, <a href="mailto:tk...@ameritel.net">tk&#8230;@ameritel.net</a> (Tim Keck) writes: <br /> &gt; In article &lt;kpierrot-0206961924000&#8230;@line015.nwm.mindlink.net&gt; <a href="mailto:kpier...@unixg.ubc.ca">kpier&#8230;@unixg.ubc.ca</a> (Hokus Pick) writes: <br /> &gt;&gt;From: <a href="mailto:kpier...@unixg.ubc.ca">kpier&#8230;@unixg.ubc.ca</a> (Hokus Pick) <br /> &gt;&gt;Subject: OIL Change <br /> &gt;&gt;Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 19:24:00 +1000 <br /> 
<p>&gt;&gt;After how many miles should I get an oil change for a 1983 Scirocco? &nbsp;I&#8217;ve <br /> &gt;&gt;heard some people say after 8,000 miles, but that seems like a long time.  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Thanks!  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Razz  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;___________________________________________  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;HOKUS PICK &nbsp; <a href="mailto:kpier...@unixg.ubc.ca">kpier&#8230;@unixg.ubc.ca</a> <br /> &gt;&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://catalog.com/lionsden/hokus/" rel="nofollow">http://catalog.com/lionsden/hokus/</a>  </p>
<p>&gt; I think VW spec is 7500, at least it is for my 89. It used to be 3000 (circa <br /> &gt; 73). &nbsp;I used to change mine at 3000 and used 10w30 or 20w50, depending on <br /> &gt; season. &nbsp;Now I change at 5000 and use 5w-50 synthetic oil year round. &nbsp;I add <br /> &gt; slick-50 every 50k miles, because I like the logic of it, even if I can&#8217;t <br /> &gt; provr it works. &nbsp; I won&#8217;t enter the filter debate, but I think you can&#8217;t go <br /> &gt; wrong with a VW filter. <br /> &gt; tk </p>
<p>The only thing I&#8217;ve realy read about the filter debate is from this list&#8217;s FAQ. <br /> For some A2s (my &#8217;88 Jetta included), it&#8217;s fairly importnat to use Bosch, VW <br /> and a few other filters which have a valve built-in that others (Fram for <br /> example) do not. &nbsp;Without this valve, ALL the oil will drain into the pan when <br /> the engine is off. &nbsp;VW later corrected this problem, I&#8217;ve read, by placing this <br /> valve in the engine itself. &nbsp;  </p>
<p>I change every 3000 miles, but don&#8217;t use sythetic.  </p>
<p>Ron </p>
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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;kpierrot-0206961924000...@line015.nwm.mindlink.net&gt; kpier...@unixg.ubc.ca (Hokus Pick) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;From: kpier...@unixg.ubc.ca (Hokus Pick) &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Subject: OIL Change &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 19:24:00 +1000 &lt;br /&gt; &gt;After how many miles should I get an oil change for a 1983 Scirocco? &#160;I&#039;ve &lt;br /&gt; &gt;heard some people say after 8,000 miles, but that seems like a long time. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Thanks! &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Razz &lt;br /&gt; &gt;___________________________________________ &lt;br /&gt; &gt;HOKUS PICK &#160; kpier...@unixg.ubc.ca &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; http://catalog.com/lionsden/hokus/ &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I think VW spec is 7500, at least it is for my 89. It used to be 3000 (circa &lt;br /&gt; 73). &#160;I used to change mine at 3000 and used 10w30 or 20w50, depending on &lt;br /&gt; season. &#160;Now I change at 5000 and use 5w-50 synthetic oil year round. &#160;I add &lt;br /&gt; slick-50 every 50k miles, because I like the logic of it, even if I can&#039;t &lt;br /&gt; provr it works. &#160; I won&#039;t enter the filter debate, but I think you can&#039;t go &lt;br /&gt; wrong with a VW filter. &lt;br /&gt; tk &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt;From: <a href="mailto:kpier...@unixg.ubc.ca">kpier&#8230;@unixg.ubc.ca</a> (Hokus Pick) <br /> &gt;Subject: OIL Change <br /> &gt;Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 19:24:00 +1000 <br /> &gt;After how many miles should I get an oil change for a 1983 Scirocco? &nbsp;I&#8217;ve <br /> &gt;heard some people say after 8,000 miles, but that seems like a long time. <br /> &gt;Thanks! <br /> &gt;Razz <br /> &gt;___________________________________________ <br /> &gt;HOKUS PICK &nbsp; <a href="mailto:kpier...@unixg.ubc.ca">kpier&#8230;@unixg.ubc.ca</a> <br /> &gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://catalog.com/lionsden/hokus/" rel="nofollow">http://catalog.com/lionsden/hokus/</a> </p>
<p>I think VW spec is 7500, at least it is for my 89. It used to be 3000 (circa <br /> 73). &nbsp;I used to change mine at 3000 and used 10w30 or 20w50, depending on <br /> season. &nbsp;Now I change at 5000 and use 5w-50 synthetic oil year round. &nbsp;I add <br /> slick-50 every 50k miles, because I like the logic of it, even if I can&#8217;t <br /> provr it works. &nbsp; I won&#8217;t enter the filter debate, but I think you can&#8217;t go <br /> wrong with a VW filter. <br /> tk </p>
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