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Transaxle and Gear Box Oil

I have an 87 Golf Diesel which I have owned since 1991 and put 200,000 kms on it.

I have replaced much of the suspension and had the engine checked and minor repairs
and maintenance done to the engine. I have never had my gearbox/transaxle fluid
checked. Is it something that should be checked and/or replaced?

I have never had any problems with it. Just wondering….

Thanks……..Mike……..

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9 Responses to “Transaxle and Gear Box Oil”

  1. admin says:

    Michael DeAbreu (mdeab…@Newbridge.COM) writes:
    > I have an 87 Golf Diesel which I have owned since 1991 and put 200,000 kms on it.

    > I have replaced much of the suspension and had the engine checked and minor repairs
    > and maintenance done to the engine. I have never had my gearbox/transaxle fluid
    > checked. Is it something that should be checked and/or replaced?

    > I have never had any problems with it. Just wondering….

    > Thanks……..Mike……..

    It wouldn’t hurt to have it changed, if for nothing else to get rid of
    the wear metal suspended inside.  The level should be checked every
    six months or there abouts.  The shifting will be easier in the
    winter with fresh fluid as well.   Note that you need a special driver
    to open the drain plugs and the inspection ports.

    Cheers,

    Dent….

    Dent Harrison, P.Eng.
    Chelsea, Quebec, Canada
    cn…@freenet.carleton.ca

  2. admin says:

    This is the question.
    Well, my car, an 82 Scirocco, recently turned the 200,000 miles mark!!!
    And the last 10 times or so that I went to the local instant oil change (the
    same that took care of this car since it had 110,000 miles) to have the oil
    changed, they keep insisting in changing the gear box oil.

    The level is Ok, and I think we are talking about the same oil since the car
    was new…  I never changed it, so if I push the luck, it has at least 90,000
    miles on it (i.e. since I owe the car) without a single gear box oil
    change.

    Should I change it?
    Thanks,
    Cesar

  3. admin says:

    >winter with fresh fluid as well.   Note that you need a special driver
    >to open the drain plugs and the inspection ports.

    You usually can use a 3/8 bolt with a OCT head, this fits in the plug.  Then
    weld a not of your choice on the other end for you wrench, rachet etc.


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  4. admin says:

    In article <cdagord.292.309E7…@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> C D’Agord,

    cdag…@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu writes:
    >Well, my car, an 82 Scirocco, recently turned the 200,000 miles mark!!!
    >And the last 10 times or so that I went to the local instant oil change (the
    >same that took care of this car since it had 110,000 miles) to have the oil
    >changed, they keep insisting in changing the gear box oil.

    VW recomends against ever changing the transmission fluid in a manual
    transmission car. The idea is that if it is treated as a sealed system,
    no contaminants will ever get in, and the only potential problem would be
    with small amounts of metal from the rubbing of internal parts. To combat
    this, there is a magnet in the transmission which is intended to attract
    and hold the metal. I have never heard of anyone’s VW manual transmission
    wearing out (at least amoung the watercoolers) because of improper
    lubrication, outside of a car being used for a racing application.

    I have also learned not to let anyone who doesn’t specialize in VW’s give
    me advice about the use or maintenance of my car.

           -Chris

    Christopher Drayson

    San Francisco, CA                                                  
    cdray…@glenlake.sprl.umich.edu

  5. admin says:

    In article <cdagord.292.309E7…@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu>,

    cdag…@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (C D’Agord) wrote:
    > This is the question.
    > Well, my car, an 82 Scirocco, recently turned the 200,000 miles mark!!!
    > And the last 10 times or so that I went to the local instant oil change (the
    > same that took care of this car since it had 110,000 miles) to have the oil
    > changed, they keep insisting in changing the gear box oil.

    > The level is Ok, and I think we are talking about the same oil since the car
    > was new…  I never changed it, so if I push the luck, it has at least 90,000
    > miles on it (i.e. since I owe the car) without a single gear box oil
    > change.

    > Should I change it?
    > Thanks,
    > Cesar

    Yes.

    Although VW recommends that you leave the original oil in there, it gets
    old, and loses its original lubricating ability.

    If you know the level if OK, that means that someone (you?) pulled the
    side inspection plug and the level was just below this plug. This level is
    too low. After checking this level and putting the plug back in, you
    should remove the speedometer cable (in the top of the trans) and pour in
    another 1/4 quart. Leaving the level where it is means that 5th gear (the
    gear highest up in the trans) runs low and wears out soonest.

    Use Redline or other synthetic trans lube. You will notice better shifting
    immediately.

    Good luck.

    Enjoy,
    Dave

    Mint condition ’79 Scirocco w/’85 GTI RD engine, knock-sensor, c.r. trans
    w/.71 5th gear, self-made short-shifter, Neuspeed t.body, new catalytic
    converter :)


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  6. admin says:

    How do you drain all the oil out of the transaxel on an A2?  Where is the
    lowest point to drain it? The bently book does not tell how to do it.
    Thanks

    Walter Silbert

    w…@cornell.edu

  7. admin says:

    MTVector (mtvec…@aol.com) writes:
    > How do you drain all the oil out of the transaxel on an A2?  Where is the
    > lowest point to drain it? The bently book does not tell how to do it.
    > Thanks

    > Walter Silbert

    > w…@cornell.edu

    Look for a hexagonal plug at the lowest point under the transaxle, which
    is under the final drive (between where the drive shafts exit the
    transmission).  Remove this to drain.  

    To fill:  Remove the end plug (same shape) from the left wheel well.  Remove
    the speedometer cable from the transaxle.  With a long funnel, fill the axle
    until the oil fows out the end plug.  Replace the end plug, and the speedo
    cable with a new gasket and you are done.

    You will need to buy/make a tool to undo the plugs.  They resemble a huge
    allen key.  You can use a bolt with a nut welded on, or buy the driver
    for a few dollars.

    Good Luck!


    Dent Harrison, P.Eng.
    Chelsea, Quebec, Canada
    cn…@freenet.carleton.ca

  8. admin says:

    In article <DHzEvI….@freenet.carleton.ca>, cn…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA

    (Dent Harrison) wrote:
    > To fill:  Remove the end plug (same shape) from the left wheel well.  Remove
    > the speedometer cable from the transaxle.  With a long funnel, fill the axle

                                                                              ^^^^
    Dent didn’t say explicitly, but you’re filling the trans with the funnel
    stuck through the speedometer cable hole on the top of the trans. When the
    fluid runs out the side hole (the "check" hole), stop. Put the side plug
    back in, then add 1/4 quart more through the funnel.

    > until the oil fows out the end plug.  Replace the end plug, and the speedo
    > cable with a new gasket and you are done.

    > You will need to buy/make a tool to undo the plugs.  They resemble a huge
    > allen key.  You can use a bolt with a nut welded on, or buy the driver
    > for a few dollars.

    I bought the huge allen wrench that fits in the drain and check plugs.
    Saves all that dinking around, and only costs about US$8.

    Good luck.


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  9. admin says:

    Oh, BTW, use a good synthetic lube, like Redline Manual Trans Lube.


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